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Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by JDE » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:50 am

With the obvious decline of membership participation here I’m well aware that I’m essentially just writing this for my own narcissistic contemplative musings… still though, I am vigorously and morbidly obsessed with how abruptly the world we have grown to know and exist within is changing.

Our own lethargic ways and need for instant gratification, transactions and social media recognition are symptoms and a by-product of a new emergence of technology replacing the need for our own individuality.

Not to sound apocalyptic; but it’s pretty crazy how we have essentially drawn a blueprint for our own inefficient demise. :shock:

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Post by polish hooligan » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:46 am

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Re: Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by lewandowskielbasa » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:00 am

Let me check video later but I think this will result in more depression/suicide. Not to sidetrack but there has also been an increase over the past 25 years in middle class shootings by individuals we would classify today as incels.

In simplest terms I think this new era is just wider spread welfare. More people living simply as pets of the wealthy. I dunno, I've personally never lived hungry so I strive for more meaning in life.

Then you have the entire debate of why are we so worried over decreasing birth rates when this is on the horizon. I think it would be wise to pause the migrant importing til we have a taste of this new automated era first.


Sidenote: I should probably start a thread on Brexit and specifically its affect on Poles returning to the fatherland

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Re: Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by JDE » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:04 pm

:lol: :lol: Kielbasa your thoughts and mind are in so many different tangents that I started to write something, read your shit, and ultimately lost all my memory like that dude in memento :lol:

Actually, what a great fuckin flick that was, let's watch a trailer of it for the sake of fuckin watching something. :mrgreen:

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Re: Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by JDE » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:06 pm

Polish Politics in a nutshell pertaining the recent conference on Peace and Security in the Middle east hosted in Wawa :roll:

"- najpierw amerykańska dziennikarka żydowskiego pochodzenia stwierdza, że Żydzi podczas powstania walczyli z polskim i niemieckim reżimem.
- następnie członek Partii Republikańskiej Mike Pompeo stwierdza, że Polacy powinni zwrócić majątek Żydom, którzy stracili go podczas Holocaustu.
- ten sam Pan w kolejnej wypowiedzi chwali "niezłomny polski duch", a za przykład podaje Franka Bleichmana - ubeka pochodzenia żydowskiego, który m.in. mordował żołnierzy AK, oskarżony jest też o popełnienie zbrodni stalinowskich.
- Netanyahu spóźnia się godzinę na spotkanie z Morawieckim.
- Na koniec szczytu Netanyahu dodaje, że naród polski kooperował z reżimem nazistowskim w mordowaniu Żydów podczas Holocaustu.
- Arabia Saudyjska w podzięce za zorganizowanie szczytu wprowadziła embargo na wołowinę z Polski

I to wszystko w Warszawie. Zaprosiliśmy gości na polecenie naszego wielkiego sojusznika a ten sojusznik i goście zesrali nam się na dywan. Ale ważne, że lewactwo dupa boli."
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Re: Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by JDE » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:11 pm

I personally think one of the major modern problems facing Poland is the lack of English written media conveying our narrative to the World.

Foreign press can write whatever their hearts desire and we have no rebuttal whatsoever internationally.

Yeah, I get it, under a foreign boot till 89, still plenty of time to establish an English speaking print media that can counteract the dubious bullshit I have to read each time I search for Polish news on Google.

Look at Israel to see how to corner this market.

The English language is essentially the internet throughout, barring places like China, though not discounting their VPN access.

You cannot truly have significance or a presence on the internet without having the vehicle to drive English speaking opinion pieces from highly educated individuals that get picked up by foreign media and redistributed throughout the associated press.

I see somebody at PIS woke up and created Poland>In or what the fuck ever they call that initiative.

It’s so far a weak attempt that just recycles Polish news and doesn’t bring forth much of substance.

You need individuals to poignantly express themselves with opinion pieces and make a case in the international world of public opinion that is the internet.

Go ahead and search Poland in the Google news repository and tell me how balanced those results are when it pertains favorability for us and against in major publications that get consumed throughout this planet.

Anyway, rant mode over, good read here:

When Poland agreed to host a Middle East conference in Warsaw, on February 13-14, it expected some flak from Muslim countries, in particular Iran, a cold shoulder from the European Union, and, of course, scathing criticism from Russia and, perhaps, China. What the Polish hosts did not expect were attacks and hectoring from the United States, Israel, and the liberal media. What was billed as a “Middle East” summit quickly turned into a lecture on the Second World War.

Poland bent over backward to accommodate the wishes of Washington, DC, to hold the conference despite the opposition of Brussels, Moscow, Beijing, Tehran, and other actors. To show its loyalty and solidarity, Poland took America’s support for granted. In return, some American officials and reporters insulted the Poles. Warsaw was utterly unprepared for the wave of resentment and ignorance from its allies. We shall return to this below. First, let us look at, shall we say, Poland’s non-allies.

Already in the run-up to the conference, Iran predictably flew off the handle. It charged Poland with warmongering at the dictates of the “Zionists” and their American “lackeys.” “Warsaw circus” was a more diplomatic description of the event. Tehran imposed visa and economic sanctions against Poland, which so far have impacted visiting scholars and tourists as well as a number of Polish companies. The ayatollahs also threatened a nuclear war—a permanent feature of their rhetorical repertoire which elicited a long, bored snore from Tel Aviv but was a rude jolt for Warsaw nonetheless.
China more calmly raised the question of economic benefits in its relationship with Poland. The Poles simply cannot afford to miss out on Beijing’s economic largess. Russia gracelessly sneered: “the Americans will fight to the last Pole,” again questioning the US commitment to NATO in central and eastern Europe. Further, the EU gave the Warsaw conference its cold shoulder by giving it low priority. Essentially, Brussels boycotted the summit. The icy treatment continued a day later when the participants changed the venue to Munich. Over the weekend, at the conference, Vice President Mike Pence made little progress convincing his European audience of the benefits of ratcheting up sanctions against Iran. At the same conference on European security, Joe Biden, who is again considering a run for the presidency, received a standing ovation for slamming US foreign policy in the Middle East.


Blows from the Americans

The Polish government took it all rather stoically. However, it positively turned grim at the blows the Poles received from the Americans in short succession before and during the conference. These offensive and impolitic acts against their Polish hosts by the United States and Israel completely overshadowed and nullified the purpose of the conference in the eyes of the Polish public.

First, right before the meeting, in another of a series of missteps following the submission of her credentials, US Ambassador Georgette Mosbacher, a Republican Party fundraiser who made her money in cosmetics, demanded that Poland turn over 300,000 pages of documents regarding the Holocaust from the state archives of the Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) yearly. This request is beyond the Polish capacity to process in such a short time. There are no funds and no manpower. The rumors spread of the American envoy’s manifestly flamboyant haughtiness and her allegedly muted threats regarding the durability of the US-Poland alliance in case of Polish noncompliance. Such ultimatums are hardly diplomatic. Whether or not Mosbacher’s infamous churlishness was exemplified here is of secondary importance. For the prickly Poles, who remember all too well the many foreign occupations and ham-fisted ways of alien representatives in Warsaw, the perception of an envoy lacking in tact is enough to cause them to recoil. Mosbacher’s chumminess with the post-Communist and liberal establishment does not sit well with their government officials and much of the public. A research grant would go a long way to accommodate the ambassador’s wishes. A little diplomacy might do the State Department some good.

Pompeo in Action

If Mosbacher is perceived as ham-fisted, her boss, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, comes across as ill-informed and poorly advised on Polish matters. Immediately upon his arrival in Warsaw, Secretary Pompeo demanded Jewish property restitution lost in “the Holocaust era.” What about Catholic, or more broadly, Christian property restitution? There are plenty of American citizens with Polish ancestry whose families lost real estate and other goods in the Second World War and its aftermath. Don’t they deserve the support of America’s top diplomat?

The problems with selective restitution requests are numerous. For starters, hardly any en bloc restitution has taken place in Poland since 1989 with the important exception of some of the properties of the Catholic Church and other religious denominations, including Judaism. Here’s what Pompeo’s aides and speechwriters failed to tell him:
During the Second World War and immediately after, all Polish citizens, Christians and non-Christians, experienced massive property losses. This was both because of widespread destruction by the invading armies of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union and because of Nazi and Communist confiscations. Between 1939 and 1945, Polish state property was taken over by the invaders completely. Private and community Jewish property was confiscated wholesale and private Christian property selectively. An exception occurred in the early stages of the Soviet occupation in eastern Poland (1939-1941), where Polish Christians and Jews were targeted equally by the Communists.

In western Poland, the Jews suffered total confiscation—with everything incorporated directly into the Third Reich—as well as in central Poland, which was maintained as a separate Nazi colony. Catholics and other Christians lost all large- and medium-sized properties in the west, as well as some small holdings. In the center of the occupied country, most large Christian-owned estates and enterprises were expropriated, while some medium and small properties were taken over. When the Soviets returned to push the Nazis out of Poland, the Communist government first seized all assets that had been stolen by the Germans and nationalized them. Second, they embarked on an orgy of confiscations and re-confiscations, which targeted all remaining large and medium properties, as well as most small ones affecting Christians and Jews alike. Since 1989, there has been no restitution legislation for any of the private victims of property theft by the Nazis and Communists. The only remedy is to go through courts individually. But Mike Pompeo has no idea about any of this. Instead of encouraging Poland to respect private property generally, he bizarrely singled out a category of victims by religious origin: the Jewish people. Are the Catholics not good enough to see their property returned?

When he finished enlightening his Polish hosts about the intricacies of property restitution, and to put everyone in a better mood, Secretary Pompeo decided to share an inspirational tale with the Poles. He touted a “Polish-American” personal success story: from rags to riches in the United States. Unfortunately, the individual selected by America’s top diplomat to inspire the Poles happened to be Franciszek (Frank) Blaichman, a Stalinist secret policeman and, earlier, a Communist guerrilla. Bleichman emigrated to the US in 1951. He had concealed his past until about a decade ago when, in 2009, his highly sanitized memoir was published. Did I mention that there was an official investigation of his murderous activities by Poland’s Institute of National Remembrance? Apparently, Bleichman was involved in the killing of at least two pro-Western Home Army (AK) fighters and in numerous denunciations to the Soviets of Polish patriots, the latter whom he dubbed “Nazi collaborators,” as was the diktat of Stalin’s propagandists.

Mike Pompeo must have been unaware of any of that, and much more, too. He said that Bleichman was “a testament to the resilience of the Polish people.” Which ones? The ones he was complicit in killing or the ones he denounced to the

Soviet NKVD?
Please note the stark contrast between the abysmal performance of the Secretary of State in February 2019 and his boss, President Donald Trump, in July 2018 in Warsaw. The inferiority of the State Department’s speechwriting and fact-finding teams is embarrassing. Yet the flood of ignorance and offense would not turn itself off. American public figures and their foreign allies kept dishing it out to the Poles.

MSNBC’s History Lesson

For a brief moment, we even wondered if the source of Pompeo’s intel on Poland was not the MSNBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell. She decided to treat everyone to a history lesson. The reporter informed us with her usual unquestioned authority that in April 1943 the Jewish fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising fought against the “Polish and Nazi regime.” Mitchell is not a millennial who has been cheated by an inferior educational system. No, she is a septuagenarian who should know that there was no native quisling government in Poland and that the occupying power was German. The Nazis were not from Venus; they were from the Third Reich. Their ethnicity was German. Their ideology was Nazism.
Please note how liberal prejudice against Catholic Poland translates into, first, conflating “Polish and Nazi,” the former an ethnicity and culture, and the other an alien ideology that had no place among the Poles since it was of German origin. Second, observe how the prejudice has generated a “Polish and Nazi regime” that simply did not exist. Again, it was a German government; more precisely, it was the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP). This is what “Nazi” means in translation. There is nothing Polish about that. Memo to MSNBC: checking and cross-checking your facts is an indispensable characteristic of good journalism. And stop listening to the neo-Stalinist school that blames the Poles for the crimes of Nazism.

Bibi’s Foot

At any rate, Mitchell pretended to walk back her slur, but did not apologize. She was lucky that her egregious slander soon disappeared in a storm caused by Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself. He tried to be nice to his Polish allies and to dismiss journalistic complaints about a controversial Polish law that sought to protect the nation from slander. The Israeli leader stressed that the law was defanged and symbolic. No one was ever imprisoned under it. True enough.
But the way that Netanyahu chose to express himself was appalling to say the least. He was reported by the Israeli press to have said: “The Poles collaborated with the Nazis and I don’t know anyone who was ever sued for such a statement.” Well, Warsaw took offense at “the Poles collaborated with the Nazis.” Later, his spokeswoman denied that the prime minister had used the definite article. She claimed that he said “Poles cooperated with the Nazis.” Freudian slip? Perhaps. Bibi’s English is flawless; he knows his articles. Besides, his words were recorded and the press refused to change the story. Clearly, Netanyahu put his foot in his mouth.

Coming in the wake of Mosbacher, Pompeo, and Mitchell’s missteps, Prime Minister Netanyahu’s words added insult to injury. Poland has downgraded its delegation to an Intermarium (i.e., the lands between the Black, Adriatic, and Baltic Seas) conference in Israel scheduled to meet in a few days. Prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki is refusing to go. The Polish government, the opposition parties, and the public are truly appalled by Netanyahu’s faux pas. The relations with Israel are now dialed back to before the May 2018 declaration of amity.
No one in Poland will forget that the Germans and the Soviets killed about 6 million Polish citizens, including nearly 3 million Polish Christians, overwhelmingly Catholics. The perpetrators were chiefly German Nazis. What Poland’s distinguished guests and foreign media have perpetrated in Warsaw this month not only smacks of historical revisionism, but is a classic trick of blaming the victim. To what end?

Nobody sane has ever denied that there were Poles, including Nazi collaborators, who killed Jews for a wide range of reasons. But the Nazi collaborators were not “the Poles.” The evildoers were in the minority. Many of them lacked any Polish national consciousness and stemmed from the lower depths of society. They targeted the conscientious, patriotic Poles. And those were the active majority. Most people, as is the case everywhere, tended to be passive witnesses: neither heroes nor villains. Still, the largest single category of Righteous Gentiles, who saved Jews during the Second World War (confirmed by Yad Vashem), were overwhelmingly Catholic Poles. Bibi should know better.
According to Newsmax, on the eve of the conference, “The [State Department] officials said Pompeo hoped to reverse what they called a decade of US disengagement in Central Europe that created a vacuum that Russia and China have exploited.” If this was his intention, the secretary failed miserably.
Mosbacher’s ham-fisted shenanigans, Pompeo’s historical ignorance, and Mitchell’s liberal prejudices caused serious damage to America’s good standing in Poland. Why should we care? After Brexit, the United States needs more than ever allies to represent its interests in Europe so we can concentrate on renewing America and preparing for the looming China threat. Poland is that friend. Thank God, Vice President Mike Pence kept silent in Warsaw. And how refreshingly golden it was.
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Re: Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by lewandowskielbasa » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:13 pm

JDE wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:04 pm
:lol: :lol: Kielbasa your thoughts and mind are in so many different tangents that I started to write something, read your shit, and ultimately lost all my memory like that dude in memento :lol:

Actually, what a great fuckin flick that was, let's watch a trailer of it for the sake of fuckin watching something. :mrgreen:

Haha. I wrote that while driving to work too. Fucking respond to it point by point mister.

I'll catch up on your recent posts. I skimmed it and it was quite informative. Nice work.

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Re: Humanity going forward: Automation, Robotics, Us

Post by lewandowskielbasa » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:57 am

JDE wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:11 pm
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Great read JDE. Nice work I will pass this along.

This part confused me: "Please note the stark contrast between the abysmal performance of the Secretary of State in February 2019 and his boss, President Donald Trump, in July 2018 in Warsaw. The inferiority of the State Department’s speechwriting and fact-finding teams is embarrassing."

Stark contrast meaning Trump's speech was accurate?


As for your point about Polish sources in English. It is improving but the overwhelming sources are heavy left leaning and somewhat butt kissing of the West. No surprise since there is no easier way to garner an audience than stroke their ego. But over time a more grounded Polish perspective will surface even overseas. This is an example of one of the positive legacies of the UK migration - English in Poland was jump started. If we are to Westernize as part of the EU then let it be global English not German/French.

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