possession stats? really?
If you're seriously using that as an indicator of how well we played vs. Germany, I don't even know what to say.
We are NEVER going to out-possess teams like Germany, Spain, etc. The Germs out-possessed us and outpassed us 3 to 1, 4 to 1, whatever... they had two half-chances, we totally frustrated them and played amazing team defense AND we had the better scoring opportunities (still can't forgive Milik for that one).
jerzy_dudek1 wrote:Lets take the ukraine game out of the picture and focus this campaign as whole....
Clutching at straws mate! Take ukraine out of it? and focus on the campaign as a whole? You can't have both pal, which one do you want? Focus on the campaign as a whole or take the ukraine game out of it?
You're not honestly drawing the same conclusions from the Ukraine match vs. the NI/Germany matches?
we can absolutely take parts of the Ukraine game out of it...
We rested key players, we played a different formation, we had EK I mean Serie A bums like Cionek out there... I am not saying I am happy with out performance (particularly 1st half) but come on. Nawalka took a gamble of sorts by fielding that XI - and end result? 3 points. The ends justify the means.
Why can't some of you just sit back and enjoy the ride? 3 games - 2 wins, 1 draw, 0 goals allowed.
(i know it hasnt been perfect (I don't think anyone is saying that) and hopefully we see an improved game vs. Switzerland)
I guess it's the Polish stereotype of us always complaining...
If you read my posts i mentioned our efforts against germany were good you pretty much echoed my sentiments. Though put forward in a manner insinuating that i expected to play them out the park? i don't know. What i do know, is i have nothing better to do at the moment so i'm replying to all of you peanuts on here.
and here is my stance on statistics
statistics are a byproduct of how well you play. Football is not a byproduct of statistics. Because what happens on the field gives birth to the stats, not the other way around. like that famous quote "Statistics are just like mini-skirts, they give you good ideas but hide the most important thing" .
Though if we agree stats are a byproduct of football and you watched the games. It's important and i like to assess the performance based on the team as a whole, not on individuals and on responses like "i wished maczynski played like this and not that". You're essentially just saying "i wish he played better". Obvious is quite obvious and not the greatest answer to our issues with maintaining possession. It doesn't really solve anything. Except it reveals to me exactly how ambiguous your understanding of football is. That you resort to answers like these to offer a solution of a far more complex nature.
So, the main gripe i have with how we have been playing and firstly i'll say, yes the game against N ireland was great and we were in complete control. Whilst i didn't expect to see this replicated with Germany. I was hoping the game against Ukraine would settle my nerves and we would see another assured performance the likes we saw against N. Ireland. Nope. The stats i offered up was a byproduct of the rubbish at display that game. Ukraine pressed high up, our midfield was zonally marked out of the game. We found it very difficult if straight up impossible to play straight through the middle from defence and fluently move it to attack. They were relentless and how we survived? Was our resilience winning balls in the middle and moving forward when they were caught out, oh and long balls over the top of our midfield.
These are proffessional players and we boast the best team in nearly 50 years. Everyone there knows how to play good football. The reason they are not is not them, you can see how hard they fight and how much they want it. It is not the players at fault. It's the man in charge. You fucking peanut heads.
I couldn't disagree with you more, though to be honest thats where it ends. I can't begrudge someone here getting excited about history being made. If you want to believe we are barcelona more power to you. I'm just saying you play like shit and cracks will start to show up. If those stats repeat and we have a bad day, thats 4-0! Remember, just as our strikers misfired, so did Germany's and Ukraines. They were out and out chances that at this level should have been put away, we are riding a big wave of luck, including the draws. It can get us results, though i will not submit to this circlejerk around Nawalka.